If you look at the image below you will eventually see what Professor Avinoam Danin sees. That may be because you share his ability to detect the shapes of the petals of chrysanthemum or you have looked long enough to see an overlay added to make it more apparent. Prof Danin is an eminent Israeli botanist working as associate professor at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem. Because of the discovery of pollens on the Shroud, Danin, as an expert on the flora around Jerusalem, was invited to participate in some shroud research. His arrival on the case would eventually create major headlines. I have included an extended interview with Professor Danin in which I attempted to probe as deeply as I can the strength and basis of his evidence and conviction about it. If you can accept what he says as true then the case for the shroud's authenticity is effectively put beyond dispute. But you must weigh it up for yourself. This evidence is, ultimately, subjective. Unless you can see it yourself you must determine whether you accept Prof. Danin's assurance that it is there. Some, but not all, botanists do.
The first part of the interview sets out the background, in the final part, I set out to press the professor as hard as I can. Please bear with the first extended question. I do, eventually, get to the point.